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		<title>By: One Year Ago Today &#124; So Much More Than A Mom</title>
		<link>http://somuchmorethanamom.com/2009/02/04/are-credit-scores-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-4534</link>
		<dc:creator>One Year Ago Today &#124; So Much More Than A Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most popular blog post by far is Narcissistic Mothers. My least popular post is Are Credit Scores Obsolete. I guess there a lot more people trying to understand their parents and narcissists than there are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most popular blog post by far is Narcissistic Mothers. My least popular post is Are Credit Scores Obsolete. I guess there a lot more people trying to understand their parents and narcissists than there are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mamaneeds2rant</title>
		<link>http://somuchmorethanamom.com/2009/02/04/are-credit-scores-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>mamaneeds2rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People need to start using their BRAINS again--and that means borrowers, lenders, and regulators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People need to start using their BRAINS again&#8211;and that means borrowers, lenders, and regulators.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://somuchmorethanamom.com/2009/02/04/are-credit-scores-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I definately agree that using AUS only isn&#039;t the way to go. I&#039;m just pointing out that not using it doesn&#039;t make sense, either. And also true is that many&#039;professionals in the real estate business - agents, lenders, apprasiers, etc - are only out for a buck and not their client&#039;s interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I definately agree that using AUS only isn&#8217;t the way to go. I&#8217;m just pointing out that not using it doesn&#8217;t make sense, either. And also true is that many&#8217;professionals in the real estate business &#8211; agents, lenders, apprasiers, etc &#8211; are only out for a buck and not their client&#8217;s interest.</p>
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		<title>By: So Much More Than A Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>So Much More Than A Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t even get me started on TARP, I think I could write an entire blog about that fiasco.  Yes, lets hand the CEOs who have proven that they are inept at managing their companies billions of tax-payer dollars and not ask what they are going to do with it.  I&#039;m sure they won&#039;t spend in on junkets to Vegas (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/03/bailedout-wells-fargo-pla_n_163645.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wells Fargo&lt;/a&gt;).  Not only should they not have been given the money, they should be in jail or at least shouldn&#039;t have their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t even get me started on TARP, I think I could write an entire blog about that fiasco.  Yes, lets hand the CEOs who have proven that they are inept at managing their companies billions of tax-payer dollars and not ask what they are going to do with it.  I&#8217;m sure they won&#8217;t spend in on junkets to Vegas (<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/03/bailedout-wells-fargo-pla_n_163645.html" rel="nofollow">Wells Fargo</a>).  Not only should they not have been given the money, they should be in jail or at least shouldn&#8217;t have their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: So Much More Than A Mom</title>
		<link>http://somuchmorethanamom.com/2009/02/04/are-credit-scores-obsolete/comment-page-/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>So Much More Than A Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said.  Thank you so much for your well-thought out comments.  It is refreshing to hear from someone in the business who actually considers the borrower, not just what the investor will buy or how much they can make on the deal, regardless of weather or not it&#039;s in the borrower&#039;s best interests.  We need more like you to get this business back on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said.  Thank you so much for your well-thought out comments.  It is refreshing to hear from someone in the business who actually considers the borrower, not just what the investor will buy or how much they can make on the deal, regardless of weather or not it&#8217;s in the borrower&#8217;s best interests.  We need more like you to get this business back on track.</p>
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		<title>By: catsworking</title>
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		<dc:creator>catsworking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the current financial mess wreaks such havoc on the credit rating bureaus that they implode and credit scores become obsolete. There are too many mistakes in the system to make the information reliable enough to base life-changing financial decisions on. And screw this, &quot;Check your credit report on a rotating basis every 4 months to make sure it&#039;s accurate.&quot; Why should WE bear the burden of correcting credit bureau incompetence?

I was just reading that credit card companies may start setting terms based on how their cards are used. For example, someone who regularly charges at a liquor store might get a higher interest rate.

You know that logic is going to trickle into credit ratings eventually, lowering scores for people who may charge porn, cigarettes, or anything else these &quot;gateways to credit&quot; decide is suspicious.

We&#039;re shoveling money into banks and not even asking what they&#039;re going to do with it. So why should an individual have to give a bank his financial life history?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the current financial mess wreaks such havoc on the credit rating bureaus that they implode and credit scores become obsolete. There are too many mistakes in the system to make the information reliable enough to base life-changing financial decisions on. And screw this, &#8220;Check your credit report on a rotating basis every 4 months to make sure it&#8217;s accurate.&#8221; Why should WE bear the burden of correcting credit bureau incompetence?</p>
<p>I was just reading that credit card companies may start setting terms based on how their cards are used. For example, someone who regularly charges at a liquor store might get a higher interest rate.</p>
<p>You know that logic is going to trickle into credit ratings eventually, lowering scores for people who may charge porn, cigarettes, or anything else these &#8220;gateways to credit&#8221; decide is suspicious.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re shoveling money into banks and not even asking what they&#8217;re going to do with it. So why should an individual have to give a bank his financial life history?</p>
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		<title>By: origazgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>origazgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree with your comments. My family owns a mortgage company, I am a licensed mortgage broker and real estate agent with 6 years in the business, my father is also dually licensed with over 30 years experience. Our job as &quot;professionals&quot; is to guide our clients along the correct path. It is our job to know the in&#039;s and out&#039;s of the loan programs available how to realistically qualify a borrower.

Success in this business is based on relationships and understanding the need of the client. So I don&#039;t think anyone can claim the AUS systems are the answer to underwriting.  I have lost business over the years, especially during the boom, because I knew when a deal did not make sense for the borrower and I was not afraid to turn down a loan. I was often told that XYZ company down the street would do the loan - my reply &quot;I have a conscience&quot;.

I could have easily processed many loans through the automated systems and made three times as much money. However, today, my bank account is plentiful and I can sleep at night.

It is time to go back to the basics of personal relationships, educationing mortgage professionals on how to read a loan application, use a calculator, calculate debt to income ratios, and stop relying on computers to tell them what makes sense. Common sense is what we need again! Remember, AUS systems do not take in to account non-credit related expenses of the borrower. Most borrowers have plenty of financial obligations which do not appear on a credit report.

I have no doubt our government and lending institutions will not learn a lesson from the housing demise. Lisa is correct, the decrease in credit scores and increase in foreclosures and short sales will force lenders down the road to create &quot;fancy&quot; new loan programs to suit these borrowers. The cycle when begin again.

I do not however give all the blame to the lenders or wall street. So many investors and homeowners are taking advantage of the current situation. Otherwise creditable borrowers are walking away from properties or negotiating modifications simply because the equity has disappeared and there is no accountability required anymore.

We have become a society of &quot;users&quot;.

It&#039;s time once again for face to face meetings with borrowers (something we have always required) and time for mortgage professionals to actually have training (and brains!).

Thank you for letting me interject!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree with your comments. My family owns a mortgage company, I am a licensed mortgage broker and real estate agent with 6 years in the business, my father is also dually licensed with over 30 years experience. Our job as &#8220;professionals&#8221; is to guide our clients along the correct path. It is our job to know the in&#8217;s and out&#8217;s of the loan programs available how to realistically qualify a borrower.</p>
<p>Success in this business is based on relationships and understanding the need of the client. So I don&#8217;t think anyone can claim the AUS systems are the answer to underwriting.  I have lost business over the years, especially during the boom, because I knew when a deal did not make sense for the borrower and I was not afraid to turn down a loan. I was often told that XYZ company down the street would do the loan &#8211; my reply &#8220;I have a conscience&#8221;.</p>
<p>I could have easily processed many loans through the automated systems and made three times as much money. However, today, my bank account is plentiful and I can sleep at night.</p>
<p>It is time to go back to the basics of personal relationships, educationing mortgage professionals on how to read a loan application, use a calculator, calculate debt to income ratios, and stop relying on computers to tell them what makes sense. Common sense is what we need again! Remember, AUS systems do not take in to account non-credit related expenses of the borrower. Most borrowers have plenty of financial obligations which do not appear on a credit report.</p>
<p>I have no doubt our government and lending institutions will not learn a lesson from the housing demise. Lisa is correct, the decrease in credit scores and increase in foreclosures and short sales will force lenders down the road to create &#8220;fancy&#8221; new loan programs to suit these borrowers. The cycle when begin again.</p>
<p>I do not however give all the blame to the lenders or wall street. So many investors and homeowners are taking advantage of the current situation. Otherwise creditable borrowers are walking away from properties or negotiating modifications simply because the equity has disappeared and there is no accountability required anymore.</p>
<p>We have become a society of &#8220;users&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time once again for face to face meetings with borrowers (something we have always required) and time for mortgage professionals to actually have training (and brains!).</p>
<p>Thank you for letting me interject!</p>
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		<title>By: So Much More Than A Mom</title>
		<link>http://somuchmorethanamom.com/2009/02/04/are-credit-scores-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>So Much More Than A Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not suggesting that underwriters get to know their borrowers personally.  You&#039;re right, that would be impractical.  Sure, the AUS helps, but an actual underwriter looks at the files anyway.  The way it is now, and has been in the past, is the underwriter has very little say in the decision.  My implied solution is that the underwriter make the decision, using the AUS and credit score only as guides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that underwriters get to know their borrowers personally.  You&#8217;re right, that would be impractical.  Sure, the AUS helps, but an actual underwriter looks at the files anyway.  The way it is now, and has been in the past, is the underwriter has very little say in the decision.  My implied solution is that the underwriter make the decision, using the AUS and credit score only as guides.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your example is great; however, your implied solution is impractical. We don&#039;t all live in small towns where we are known personally. Mortgages, along with other pieces of life, are run through automated systems, because that&#039;s what works with greater numbers of people. I think we&#039;ll see lower scores being accepted by such systems once our economic turnaround begins.

My husband has been in the mortgage business for over 20 years and currently owns a broker firm with a partner. Even people with fantastic credit, scores, income, LTV etc are subject to crushing conditions, costing everyone time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example is great; however, your implied solution is impractical. We don&#8217;t all live in small towns where we are known personally. Mortgages, along with other pieces of life, are run through automated systems, because that&#8217;s what works with greater numbers of people. I think we&#8217;ll see lower scores being accepted by such systems once our economic turnaround begins.</p>
<p>My husband has been in the mortgage business for over 20 years and currently owns a broker firm with a partner. Even people with fantastic credit, scores, income, LTV etc are subject to crushing conditions, costing everyone time and money.</p>
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